{"id":6238,"date":"2026-04-10T22:20:38","date_gmt":"2026-04-10T14:20:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/longzhuplatform.com\/?p=6238"},"modified":"2026-04-10T22:20:38","modified_gmt":"2026-04-10T14:20:38","slug":"what-i-learned-about-the-future-of-search-and-ai-from-sundar-pichais-latest-interview-via-sejournal-marie_haynes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/longzhuplatform.com\/?p=6238","title":{"rendered":"What I Learned About The Future Of Search And AI From Sundar Pichai\u2019s Latest Interview via @sejournal, @marie_haynes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p> <div id=\"narrow-cont\"> <p>I really enjoyed this interview with Sundar Pichai by John Collison and Elad Gil of Stripe.<\/p> <p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The history and future of AI at Google, with Sundar Pichai\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/bTA8sjgvA4c?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p> <p>Here are the five most interesting things I learned.<\/p> <h2>1. Search Will Still Exist In The Future, But Much Of It Will Be Agentic<\/h2> <p>Sundar was asked if agents would replace Search. He said:<\/p> <blockquote> <p>\u201cIf I fast forward, a lot of what are just information-seeking queries will be agentic in Search. You\u2019ll be completing tasks. You\u2019ll have many threads running.\u201d<\/p> <\/blockquote> <p>And also, Search will change so that we think of it like an agent manager.<\/p> <blockquote> <p>\u201cIt keeps evolving. Search will be an agent manager in which you\u2019re doing a lot of things. I think, in some ways, you know, I use Antigravity today, and you know, you have a bunch of agents doing stuff, and I can see search doing versions of those things, and you\u2019re getting a bunch of stuff done.\u201d<\/p> <\/blockquote> <p>He said that people do deep research in AI Mode, and it will soon be the norm to do long-running tasks. He also said that the form factor of devices will change.<\/p> <h2>2. Google Uses Antigravity Internally<\/h2> <p>Boy, do I love Google\u2019s IDE and agent manager, Antigravity. I have built so many things with it, including my own RSS feed reader, a screenshot and annotation tool, workflows to publish things I write in a Google Doc to my WordPress site, and a bunch of tools to do agentic things with Google Search Console and Google Analytics 4 data. While I think Claude Cowork and Claude Code are incredible, I truly do prefer using Antigravity.<\/p> <p>It turns out that Google makes good use of Antigravity internally. Except <strong>they don\u2019t call it Antigravity. They call it \u201cJet Ski.\u201d<\/strong><\/p> <p>Sundar said that the Google DeepMind and the Google Software Engineers use it:<\/p> <blockquote> <p>\u201cI can see groups, and in particular I would say GDM and some of the SWE groups really change their workflows. They are using, we call this for some strange reason, we have a different name internally than externally of the same product, but it\u2019s Jet Ski internally which is Antigravity. You\u2019re living on it, you\u2019re living in an agent manager world. You have workflows, and you\u2019re working in this new way.\u201d<\/p> <\/blockquote> <p>He also uses it himself.<\/p> <blockquote> <p>\u201cI would query in Antigravity, in our internal version of Antigravity. \u201cHey, we launched this thing. What did people think about this? Tell me the worst five things people are talking about?\u201d and I type that. Now that brings it back. Has my life gotten easier? Yes. In the past I would have to spend a lot more time trying to get a sense for it. Now an AI agent is helping me in that journey.\u201d<\/p> <\/blockquote> <p>Also, just last week, <strong>the Google Search team started using Antigravity.<\/strong><\/p> <blockquote> <p>\u201cJust last week we rolled it [Antigravity] out to the Search team. We\u2019re constantly pushing that. In a large organization, I think change management is a hard aspect of this technology diffusing, which may be easy for a small company. You can quickly switch over.\u201d<\/p> <\/blockquote> <p>If you want to learn how to use Antigravity, I\u2019ve created a full guide teaching you how it works, and how I use it to not only code, but create full agentic workflows that I actually use in my day-to-day work. It\u2019s available in the paid part of my community, The Search Bar. And next Thursday, the Search Bar Pro crew is having an event where we\u2019re going to split into two teams, Team Claude Code and Team Antigravity, and see who can build the better SEO tool.<\/p> <p>I know it\u2019s a bit of a pain to try and use something new in your workflows. I thoroughly believe that those who learn how to use Antigravity today will have a big advantage as things really start to take off as AI improves.<\/p> <h2>3. Robotics Is Growing Fast<\/h2> <p>Sundar admitted that Google was previously too early to robotics. AI has become the missing ingredient for ideas conceived 10 to 15 years ago. The Gemini Robotics models have reached state-of-the-art status for spatial reasoning. Google has partnered back with Boston Dynamics and Agile and a few other companies.<\/p> <p>Most interesting to me was the discussion on Wing for drone delivery.<\/p> <blockquote> <p>\u201cI think we are scaling up Wing where in some reasonable time period, 40 million Americans will have access to a Wing delivery service. I\u2019m not talking years out or something like that.\u201d<\/p> <\/blockquote> <p>When asked if Google was going to do more to build hardware, Sundar said having first-party hardware for robotics and AI would be important.<\/p> <blockquote> <p>\u201cI think we\u2019d keep a very open mind. My lesson from Waymo and on the AI side with TPUs, et cetera, I need to really push the curve well, particularly in areas where you have safety, regulatory, everything. You want the first hand experience of the product feedback cycle. I think having first party hardware will end up being very important.\u201d<\/p> <\/blockquote> <h2>4. Agentic OpenClaw-Like Systems Are The Future<\/h2> <p>There\u2019s a reason why OpenClaw (initially Clawdbot) went crazy viral a few weeks ago. I still haven\u2019t set up an OpenClaw system because I don\u2019t feel I know enough about security to make this system safe.<\/p> <p>When Sundar was asked if something OpenClaw-like was coming from Google, he said he thought it was the future.<\/p> <blockquote> <p>\u201cI think you want to give users capability where you have persistent long-running tasks in a reliable, secure way. You have to think through things like identity, access, et cetera. But I think that\u2019s the future. That\u2019s the agentic future. And bringing that for consumers is a bit of an exciting frontier we are looking at. This is one of mine too.<\/p> <p>I think effectively the consumer interfaces are going to have full coding models underneath, and the right harnesses and the right skills and the ability to persist and run somewhere security in the cloud, locally and in the cloud. All those primitives are coming together.<\/p> <p>Today I feel like there\u2019s 1% of the world, maybe not 1%, 0.1% of the world who\u2019s living this future. They are building stuff for themselves, but bringing that to mass adoption. Yes. It is a very exciting frontier I think.\u201d<\/p> <\/blockquote> <p>As I am writing this, Google DeepMind has just tweeted out instructions for using their new local open model Gemma 4 with OpenClaw. A new way of communicating with our machines is starting to unfold!<\/p> <h2>5. AI And AI Agents Are Going To Improve Dramatically In 2027<\/h2> <p>Sundar was asked when he thought it would happen that agentic systems would be able to work fully with no human in the loop. He said twice that 2027 was likely to be a big year.<\/p> <blockquote> <p>\u201cI definitely expect in some of these areas \u201927 to be an important inflection point for certain things. Even the people doing it, that is the workflow through which they would produce it. Maybe for a while you would check it in the conventional way, but you switch over, a crossover. But I expect \u201927 to be a big year in which some of those shifts happen pretty profoundly.\u201d<\/p> <\/blockquote> <p>The interview finished with Sundar talking about what he was most excited about. He did mention that putting data centers in space was very exciting, but this last bit was super interesting.<\/p> <blockquote> <p>\u201cI literally spent time yesterday with someone who was explaining some improvement in post-training, which is one person talking through the improvement they are doing. Listening to it, I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, it\u2019s going to really show up as a nice jump.\u201d That\u2019s the constant power of this moment. All of that, I don\u2019t want to be specific about the second one, but we\u2019ll publish it one day I\u2019m sure.\u201d<\/p> <\/blockquote> <p>It sounds to me like he is talking about agentic self-improvement.<\/p> <p>We are currently learning how to have AI build and do things for us. I recall first learning to code with ChatGPT as a partner. It would give me code to paste into VS Code. Then I\u2019d run it and paste the errors back into ChatGPT. We went back and forth until something actually worked. I felt like I was unnecessary in this process \u2013 the copying and pasting robot, and sure enough, today\u2019s systems like Antigravity, Claude Code, and ChatGPT Codex run the code, check the errors, and fix things up without much need for human involvement.<\/p> <p>It makes sense to me that the next step in this process is to have AI systems learn to improve their usefulness without us having to prompt them specifically. I expect that when this happens, we will see even faster progression of AI capabilities and usefulness!<\/p> <p><strong>More Resources:<\/strong><\/p> <hr\/> <p><em>Read Marie\u2019s newsletter, AI News You Can Use. Subscribe now.<\/em><\/p> <hr\/> <p><em>Featured Image: isasoulart\/Shutterstock<\/em><\/p> <\/div> <p>SEO#Learned #Future #Search #Sundar #Pichais #Latest #Interview #sejournal #marie_haynes1775830838<\/p> ","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I really enjoyed this interview with Sundar Pichai by John Collison and Elad Gil of Stripe. 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